Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (livinintheGVRD) — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:26:36 GMT

Hi John ... have you moved forward in your plan to test the law?. ... do you need any help? ... as I also have some claims that need serious clarification in regards to dredging activities.

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (jjbond) — Wed, 20 May 2009 20:38:00 GMT

(Pushing my soapbox up onto the stage and getting on to it)....

Well this is a bit of a pi&&er, revoking licenses to top it off... you know earlier this week I saw this article in the paper about how the private hydro dams are in the process of causing untold damage to numerous rivers and fish habitats (check out this link with map of damage http://www.ippwatch.info/w/ a direct link to the map is here:

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (john6574) — Wed, 20 May 2009 19:33:24 GMT

Hi,

Lots of good info here but it is only somewhat helpful with dredging in BC. The Fed Fisheries Act has one defense to an accused person in it sec 78.6 of the act. If you read that section in the act and take action toward doing your due dilligence (submitting applications and the EPA studies etc) a person would (may) fall within that defense.

This is in part what I am attempting to do but explaining the plan here would take too much writting. I have submitted my...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (bignug) — Sat, 16 May 2009 01:58:36 GMT

Thanks, again, John

Talk about a CURRENT ISSUE ! Here's a post from a very clever lady, from BC. From another forum. A great heads up for us and a lesson on how the "game" works in the US. The US miners certainly pool their resources and launch formidable legal defenses. We have to do the same in Canada.

NolaM's Post :

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Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (john6574) — Fri, 15 May 2009 19:49:05 GMT

Hi All,

Dredging is a sore point with DFO. DFO wants the miner to do studies and other details that falls way outside the afordable range of my wallet. The DFO refuses to use the EPA Studies and demand you do your own.

No specific regulations exist in the Fisheries Act for placer mining there are regulations for hard rock, pulp mills and sewage treatment plants. We placer miners whether or not you are full time or recreational miners have to unite and start demanding that...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (jjbond) — Fri, 15 May 2009 08:17:47 GMT

Thanks Bignug...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (bignug) — Thu, 14 May 2009 22:06:20 GMT

Great stuff Jen and John 6574
For a "civilian" like me, it's encouraging to hear you two past members of law enforcement discuss these points of law and regulation. It makes me feel that us miners and prospectors aren't all alone, up against the...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (john6574) — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:53:48 GMT

Hi Jen,

As stated by others in the previous posts there are all the definitions and such. There is however section 78.6 of the Fisheries Act the "due dilligence defense". If you have done your research and your actions were to the best of your belief not causing harm then this is your only defense in the Fisheries Act. There is a lot more info for you to read about this if you want to give yourself a project. I have a back ground in law enforcement and do want to fight...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (jjbond) — Sun, 10 May 2009 06:01:21 GMT

Ok, done reading... sigh... great info but doesn't really make me feel comfy working a creek with a hose...(It's within 100' of a bridge/view) and an invitation for trouble if I do anything wrong..

Thanks for the help... hoping to find cold hard laws.. I appreciate that dredging can be good (mercury etc) but hope to find 'laws'...

Thanks again
Jen

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (jjbond) — Sun, 10 May 2009 05:57:46 GMT

Bighug to Bignug.... thanks so much for that... I asked for this info at the Minerals office when I got my FMC etc but obviously I was in the wrong place (not DFO)...thanks so much, going back to read now.

Jen

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (bignug) — Sun, 10 May 2009 03:13:21 GMT

Jen, we're all blondes when it comes to getting legal answers.

Here's the link to the Fisheries Act

2 key terms to remember : Disturbance of Fish Habitat and High Water Mark

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/F-14/

Before getting unneccessarily upset, this is another case where the laws are so broad that technically any human...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (jjbond) — Sat, 09 May 2009 23:10:47 GMT

Call me blond but I'm still kind of confused, I've asked this in the past but received different answers... I'll bullet point it...

+ If I own the placer claim on a cell that has a creek or river going through it, may I use any type of suction device in the water (provided that the output does not go back into the river but instead goes into a settling pond?

+Am I allowed (I'm pretty sure the answer here is no) to use a sluice box in the stream, just...

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (Rickz) — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:53:16 GMT

Thank you that told me all i needed to know for now and you do need a permit and thats if there are no fish in the stream. You guys are all so awsome and helpful to the new miner thank you Rick Z

Re: Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (CK Cowboy) — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 05:12:22 GMT

Rickz wrote:
Does any one know the laws on dredging? Any info would be great the tenure act does not state what is alowed

Rickz
Check out the thread in the Mechanized Placer...

Dredgeing in bc rivers

feeds@yuku.com (Rickz) — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:45:24 GMT

Does any one know the laws on dredging? Any info would be great the tenure act does not state what is alowed