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Dwayne	Wanting to work a placer Claim	Lead	[-]
Posts: 4 (12/09/08 14:19:29) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Hi folks, I would like to put this out there and see what kind of response I get. I'm looking at working someone's placer claim. I'm open to working pretty much anywhere in BC and I'm open to suggestions. My mining experience is limited to recreational sluicing and panning. I've done a tonne of research over the years. No matter what job I do, I seem to fall back on wanting to work a placer claim. I would love the opportunity to try my hand at making a living doing just that. I look forward to any responeses and suggestions. I don't have a lot of loot so I can't just get out there and buy my claim. Cheers
HammerTime		#1	[-]
Posts: 13 (12/10/08 03:28:30) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would love to do the same thing. I live in the Vancouver area but I will travel far to get some action. I will camp a good week or so to dig up that 6 foot pit!
bignug		#2	[-]
Posts: 106 (12/11/08 01:14:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Dwayne wrote: Hi folks, I would like to put this out there and see what kind of response I get. I'm looking at working someone's placer claim. I'm open to working pretty much anywhere in BC and I'm open to suggestions. My mining experience is limited to recreational sluicing and panning. I've done a tonne of research over the years. No matter what job I do, I seem to fall back on wanting to work a placer claim. I would love the opportunity to try my hand at making a living doing just that. I look forward to any responeses and suggestions. I don't have a lot of loot so I can't just get out there and buy my claim. Cheers For $65, you can have your own claim. That's $25 for your FMC ( Free Miners Certificate) and BCeId (electronic ID) and $40 for title to a one- cell placer claim. Your best start is at MTO http://www.mtonline.gov.bc.ca/mtov/home.do Without an FMC, there are not many miners who are going to risk giving permission for you to work their claims. Even if you had an FMC, it doesn't offer much protection. There are too many regulations, all of which can cause a claim owner to lose their claim and/or their own FMC and/or receive fines. Claim ownership comes with responsibilty and liability. The claim owner just can't police you, if he's not on the claim. Put it this way,...,a person could easily set up a sluice discharging into a salmon bearing creek, when the claim owner is out of sight. When the DFO officer is writing up the infraction, he'll be wanting the claim owner to show up, in court, too, because he authorized activities on his claim. Can't you just hear it, "but officer, the claim owner said I could pump mud into the creek 'cause it's his claim".?? The best part of having your own claim is that you get to keep 100% of your gold and if you do your Notice of Work and record your activities, you won't have to pay much rent on your claim, next year. $40 gives you almost 1/2 a kilometer of ground to prospect, for a year. Deal of the century. Last Edited By: bignug 12/11/08 01:21:25. Edited 1 times.
GoldFlakes		#3	[-]
Posts: 136 (12/11/08 11:50:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think it would be a good idea to get a few lone prospectors together and work an area. Many hands make light work and this is supposed to be for fun as well as chasing the mother lode.
Dwayne		#4	[-]
Posts: 6 (12/13/08 09:21:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Agreed. However, I'm wondering if a guy can make a living at it? hmmmm
cariboo Au		#5	[-]
Posts: 1120 (12/14/08 10:27:22) Moderator/Admin CMA paid member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well........lets see.......if bacon an beans sound good an you have no women stuck to your side an ya like the idea of liven out of A camper an you only get what ya dig out with no guaranty of what you'll find then - hell ya................if I had no wife an kids I'd be liven out in the bush diggen shaft after shaft but I also have some claims that have panned out enough for me to take the risk an may pay off.........an for sure enough to buy next seasons bacon an beans............it's A gamble for sure - one that could pay off or one that will have A lot of good memories........I really think that this is the problem with this whole type of thing.....BEING A MAN AN IT'S IN THE BLOOD TO CHALLENGE OUR-SELF'S LIKE THE DAY'S OF THE OLD.......OR - THE CALL OF THE WILD.........I know I hear it every day of my life an one day I'll have to answer it.. May the fever be with you.
HammerTime		#6	[-]
Posts: 15 (12/14/08 19:22:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well I am into it for the fun and all I want to see right now is that funny little yellow stuff. I will dig for free in trade getting some lessons and will only go with the people that know what there doing. I will get all my licenses so there will be no problems with the law. I will listen and abbey your wish's with a beer to offer and a smile! Thanks for posting the site on how to get your license, as I am new to that as well. ……Cheers!
Dwayne		#7	[-]
Posts: 7 (12/15/08 08:22:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've talked to some miners and they feel that a living can be had, of course the gold needs to be there for sure first. hmmmm
JROC		#8	[-]
Posts: 22 (12/15/08 16:53:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If you guys are interested send me a message, i have a claim you could try your mining skills at..... up in the quesnel area
Dwayne		#9	[-]
Posts: 8 (12/16/08 09:03:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	When does the season start up in Quesnel JROC?
garnetsootheran		#10	[-]
Posts: 1 (12/17/08 10:30:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	A wise person once said "To make a small fortune by gold mining all you have to do is start with a large fortune". Practically - you have to have great ground to make wages by hand mining, it is hard to move shovelful after shovelful for days on end just to buy kraft dinner and weiners. Most hand miners snipe or illegally dredge to put gold in their pan but then again you have to work where the gold is. If it was easy I would be at my winter estate in Costa Rica rather than shovelling snow in -30. LOL PS. you only need a Free Miners License if you are going to hold tenure, you do not need it to pan, prospect, mine - etc. Best for a novice to let other people pay to hold placer rights to property and ask them to let you pan - ect. on their property. With the big internet MTO boom most ground held now is moose pasture (very easy to click on a map at 2 in the morning). Not to say that all of it is useless, there is probably a gem or two out there, but most of us with property with a good history are finding it hard to find consistant values over a large area that would pay a return to mine. So try to go where the gold is if you want to find it. There is still lots of it out there. Good luck GS
Dwayne		#11	[-]
Posts: 9 (12/18/08 08:22:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey thanks Garnet for the advise. A little research before I head out should help I think! It is winter and a great time to do just that!
bignug		#12	[-]
Posts: 107 (12/18/08 09:32:03) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Without an FMC a person is called a Recreational Handpanner. If a claim owner is prepared to assume all responsibilty for you and your activitites, I suppose you could work without an FMC. That's the only way you can mine or prospect without an FMC. As a claim owner I always worked with FMC holders. We never risked working without one. Just the process of getting an FMC brings new people close to the literature, information and regulations concerning mining and prospecting, in BC. A claim owner just can't have anyone working on a claim, if that person is totally in the dark about the rules and regulations. A person without an FMC has not shown the most basic committment towards learning the business. Information Update No. 2 - Recreational Handpanning for Placer Minerals Printable Version ( 26kb) Revision Date: November 30, 2006 The Mineral Tenure Act provides that hand panning in a watercourse for placer minerals as a recreational activity can be carried out by an individual without the necessity of holding a Free Miner Certificate (FMC). Hand panning is a comparable activity to rock hounding and hiking. Hand panning means to wash mineralized earth and gravel by agitation in a hand held pan so as to separate and recover those minerals or placer minerals having the greatest specific gravity. No equipment or tools other than a hand pan can be used in recreational hand panning. Use of equipment such as a sluice box, rocker box, shaker and suction dredge is strictly regulated in British Columbia. Such equipment must not be used except on a valid placer title and then only with the approval of the District Inspector of Mines. The only specific restriction in the Mineral Tenure Act governing where you may hand pan is the provision in section 9(2) which prohibits panning on a valid mineral or placer title unless the person has permission from the recorded holder of the mineral or placer title. However, other uses of the land may prohibit hand panning. Hand panning should not be carried out: Within a park, unless permission from the park warden or agency responsible for the park is first obtained; On an Indian Reservation or Treaty Settlement Lands, unless permission is first obtained from the Band; and On private property without the owner's permission.
Dwayne		#13	[-]
Posts: 10 (12/18/08 16:25:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'll check out the Mineral Tenure Act, but in the meatime, where do recyling sluices fit into the scheme of things? They put back nothing into the stream or water course, use electricity and cause very little damage if any to the environment, not unlike panning? I've attached a photo of the unit I own ( I would if I could figure out how) I've attached a link to the unit I own. http://www.goldfeverprospecting.com/microsluice.html Cheers
garnetsootheran		#14	[-]
Posts: 2 (12/19/08 19:07:14) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Re: FMC and hand panning Used to be you carried your FMC in your back pocket 'cause it gave you a right to be in the bush, on private property etc. Not any more - you just need it to aquire cells, leases or legacy claims and you also need it to record your work and pay your fees. When a claim (cell) owner gives somebody a right to work his or her property he or she still holds the responsibility of what gets done on that property - no matter what the work permit says. You have to sign that persons work permit as you are the owner. The judge will decide who pays the fines etc in the end. Just because someone has an FMC does not mean they know squat - after all who in *ell is staking all this moose pasture around me - not someone who knows anything about mining let alone rules regulations or even common sense. You want to work my property - talk to me - it can happen and an FMC is not a requirement. Now the nice thing about hand panning is you can pan everywhere other than what is stated above - park, native land, privite property a valid placer claim, lease, etc. Oh just ask permission - you do not need a FMC. Unfortunately most (probably all) of the historic placer ground in the province is staked so you can turn to the government panning reserves (http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca...onalPanningReserves.aspx) - some of them are in great places. Research and find claim owners - I personally only get pissed with people who do more than pan on my properties without permission. Someone with a pan can never deplete a placer resource in their lifetime. Panning can lead to new discoveries and you are welcome to go find them and believe me it can be done as I have personally had a hand in that, and if you find something not in a designated placer area and want to claim it then get your FMC - ask to have the area designated and claim it if they agree to open it up. This has also been done. Go here: http://www.empr.gov.bc.ca...es/Pages/Legislation.aspx and read. When you are done read somemore - follow all the links you can on the government site. Ask questions on this site and others but take my answers and those of others as personal opinions that should always be challenged - none of us knows all the answers - only what has worked for us in the past. Oh ya - don't give up - lots of gold out there yet! GS
Dwayne		#15	[-]
Posts: 12 (12/19/08 20:26:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hahaha, good point. I'm trying to cover my bases before I head out in the bush and ask all these questions beforehand. I did observe that anyone with 25$ can be issued a FMC. So yes, it appears that knowledge may not be a prerequisite. I certainly thank everyone who responded to my original post and still would love to work with someone that has the knowledge. At the same time, I'm more then willing to step out there and get my feet wet and try my hand at placer mining, although, having said that a guy needs funds until a decent spot can be located and mined, producing some income. Thus my original post. Merry Christmas to all and I look forward to any further discussions.
polrwolf		#16	[-]
Posts: 2 (02/06/09 19:32:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have ground in the Yanks peak area that you may be interested in doing some panning. if your wanting to pay me, its by donation. all i ask is that you record the work you did, time spent, location and most of all respect the rules of placer legislation. Most of all, have fun.
Hidden values	links	#17	[-]
Posts: 1 (07/12/09 13:11:53) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	these are out dated and don't work any more..on my end I love to Dig for Gold
CK Cowboy		#18	[-]
Posts: 469 (07/13/09 04:50:28) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The government has changed to Secure Socket Server try to put an "s" after the http in the link. Dave I like yellow and shiny Last Edited By: CK Cowboy 07/13/09 04:59:23. Edited 2 times.

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